New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

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    Do you think that just grabbing the colours of the original/similar photo or 'the blotching technique' is totally cheating, and should be banned, give your opinion here. :D

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    oblic

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    New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Fri May 22, 2009 11:39 pm

    Ok, so here it is. SO SORRY ITS SO LATE!!! lol

    I drew it, and you an colour over or under it, im making the lineart version now, so if you wanna wait for it, i will be posting it here once its done.

    I have been really busy lately, so once again, I am sorry. Sad i drew this.



    with a reference: ~Caserta-Stock (dA)



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    I don't know about you guys, but I think getting the original pic and getting the colours from it is totally cheating. It would look like the photo, and be unbeatable. and only one person can really do that, or they would all look the same. so i dunno about you all, but I think this action should be banned.


    The poll is there to give your idea about it. Thanks! and good luck with COTM!!!

    OB crazy squee
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    oblic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Sat May 23, 2009 12:00 am

    Lineart version will not be here for a few days - if i do get around to making it. so, i would just colour over the image...LOL
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    silverhuntress

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 6:39 am

    Are we supposed to leave the back legs cut off? Neutral
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    oblic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Sat May 23, 2009 7:02 am

    what do you mean? lol
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    silverhuntress

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 7:09 am

    Maybe it's just my screen, but it looks like the hind legs in that picture are cut off. Question Hmmmm... maybe I should try another computer lol...
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    a_horseaholic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by a_horseaholic on Sat May 23, 2009 8:10 am

    The back legs are there on my screen, I'll see if I can get it on a white background today.

    As for the copying from a photo issue, my personal opinion is that everyone should try it once. It makes you realize just how many colors you need to give that realistic look. Painters and artists of other mediums learn their skill by copying, so as an educational tool I approve. However, I would not say the finished product is a truly original creation. This site is about learning, so I would not want to ban coats influenced by photographs, but I certainly won't vote for them to win. That's just me though.
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by a_horseaholic on Sat May 23, 2009 8:57 am

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    silverhuntress

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 8:59 am

    Thanks, I got it. Smile I'll start now ha ha. weeeee
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Anemone on Sat May 23, 2009 9:35 am

    Oblic, I know you mean me. (Shiny) and that's not very nice.
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Guest on Sat May 23, 2009 1:11 pm

    Actually, it is not only 'cheating', that method infringes on copyright. Copying/Cloning is stealing. It doesn't matter how painstaking the technique is that you use to copy the originals. Copies are copies, and are the intellectual property of the originator! If the true owner of the photo looks at your "work" and recognizes extreme similarities, it is counted as cloned/stolen and the photo owner can sue for theft, damages, etc. Using the eyedropper to get a small color palette is allowed, but not to get the colors for everything. I praise the people on here who do not use references for colors, or if they do, reference it lightly. Don't get yourself sued over something stupid. And yes, technically you are selling these and getting paid if you upload these onto Howrse's Black Pearl ( You know, Passes? ). You can also get Howrse sued by using these cloned images because someone could see it as Howrse selling these images and praising the thieves with passes when people use the image a certain number of times.

    Sorry for my rant, but many of you are being unbelievably daft!
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    silverhuntress

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 1:27 pm

    I kind of agree in that sense, because making a coat with borrowed colors and shading almost always comes out as a copy of the original picture. I've never done it before, but it seems just as bad as smudging a photograph or something.
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 2:05 pm

    Okay I finished my entery! It took forever lol.
    I made him a sooty dun colt. king
    I named him Luka Very Happy


    I don't know where I got the name, but it's kinda cute. Hope ya guys like him Cool
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    Jumpy

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Jumpy on Sat May 23, 2009 2:19 pm

    Yes I hate it! It's SOOOO unfair its obvious they are going to get good votes. I hate that technique it is sooooo stealing and rude and stupid and it's kind of not "your" painting because all you do is take colors, blotch it on, and then smudge, it's not hard work at all! I take time off my day to work on something that takes hours to do with no image or anything to look at, I use my knowledgeor horse anatomy to actually paint the image there. And it never turns out at as good as using a reference, because it's an actual image! I hate that I work so much harder on a painting than just using a reference, and they aren't apreciatted! On deviantart no one likes it! It gets annoying after awhile just watching you guys use reference after reference, maybe try doing it without one, I have been wanting to tell Shiny, jhooves, and many other people to make ones without a reference for a long time now, but I didn't want them to get mad so I never did.
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Jumpy on Sat May 23, 2009 2:21 pm

    And horseaholic, thats the reason why I used a reference for just a portrait so I could look at faces better.
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Uniqua08 on Sat May 23, 2009 2:57 pm

    Yay! Nice base, oblic! It was worth the wait. I love hand-drawn ones. squee *runs off to start coloring*
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    oblic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Sat May 23, 2009 3:09 pm

    thanks Uniqua. squee


    Shiny: its not just you. there are several people on here, and it is pretty much just smudging a photo. it isn't fair though for contests, as you'll clearly win. and its easy.

    why not see what you are really made of, without a ref? i used a ref to paint my riding school horses, but i took the photos. and it wasn't for a contest. get what im saying? Very Happy

    im most certainly not trying to start a fight, but everyone here has said their opinion. it shouldn't be banned, but just shouldn;'t deserve to win, as it is such an easy job.

    and like Guest said, Howrse, or you, may get sued. im sure you do give credit, but maybe its not enough.

    it's pretty much just smudging a photo, and its a real waste of time. its not an original coat, with a painstakingly beautiful design, its a photo. and you can't send photos to Howrse. its not allowed.


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    glad thats over, lol Neutral yay kindness bouncy bounce
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    silverhuntress

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by silverhuntress on Sat May 23, 2009 3:47 pm

    Ooookay, moving on. Surprise
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    Jumpy

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Jumpy on Sat May 23, 2009 3:55 pm

    I agree very much oblic
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    oblic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Sat May 23, 2009 4:09 pm

    thanks, but i don't want to cause an argument. MOOOOOOOOOOOOving on. Very Happy
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    i_love_hector

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by i_love_hector on Sat May 23, 2009 5:13 pm

    Hey! I'm doing one!
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    kat239

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by kat239 on Sat May 23, 2009 6:15 pm

    I think it's okay. Some people are not good at making horses without using colors and it gives them more of a life to them.

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by BREANA on Sat May 23, 2009 7:08 pm

    Okay, people, off that topic now... I love the base, oblic!
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    Pxehorse

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Pxehorse on Sat May 23, 2009 8:02 pm

    wow the base is good. i'm going to do one now
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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by Pxehorse on Sat May 23, 2009 8:03 pm

    and thanks horseaholic for doing the doing the lineart version Smile
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    oblic

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    Re: New Lineart From Me... Sorry its late

    Post by oblic on Sun May 24, 2009 2:01 am

    yeah, thanks. Very Happy

    moing on.Very Happy

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